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Wednesday, 6 May 2020

දුම් හට්ටියේ ප්‍රශ්නය

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දුම් හට්ටියේ ප්‍රශ්නය



මා මේ ලිපි ලියන්නේ කළකිරීමෙන්. මගේ ඉලක්කය සාමාන්‍ය මිනිසුන්, නූගතුන් කියන අය. එහෙත් ඔවුන්ට මේ ලිපි කියවන්න ලැබෙනවා ද කියන එක ප්‍රශ්නයක්. උගතුන් ලිපි කියෙව්වා කියා සතපහක වැඩක් නැහැ. මේ ලිපිවලට පහර දෙන්නන්ට විරුද්ධ ව මේ උගතුන් වචනයක් ලියන්නේ නැහැ. එහෙත් නූගතුන් කියන අය නම් ලියනවා. මා කියන්නේ මුහුණු පොත ගැන ම නොවෙයි. චින්තන පර්ෂදයේ වැඩ කරන අය මෙහි දී වඩාත් සිහියට නැගෙනවා. ඔවුන් කෙතරම් උගතුන් දැයි කියනවා නම් තමන් චින්තන පර්ෂදයේ සාමාජිකයන් නොවන බව කියනවා. එක් අතකින් ගත් විට එය ඇත්තක්. පසුගිය අවුරුදු තිස්තුනක පමණ කාලයෙහි චින්තන පර්ෂදයෙහි සාමාජිකයන් කියා පිරිසක් හිටියේ නැහැ. කිසිවකු සාමාජික ගාස්තුවක් කියා එකක් ගෙවා නැහැ. අප ලිච්ඡවින් තරමට ම නොවුණත් ඉඳහිට රැස්වෙනවා. තීරණ ගන්නවා. විසිර යනවා.

Tuesday, 23 April 2013

Western science as humbug

This refers to the letter to the editor by Prof. N. A. de Amaratunga on 11th April 2013, on the subject Science Vs. Humbug. It is not directed at a person in name, but I thought of replying to it whether the hat fits me or not. At the outset I must say I am not influenced by postmodernism and my relativity of knowledge is a result of Paticcasamuppada which is neither objective nor absolute. Bududahama consists of relative knowledge and in Sutta Pitaka one cannot find any reference to absolute objective knowledge.

If Prof. Amaratunga reads work on what is known as the EPR paradox and Aspect’s experiments in the original and not through popular writings he would know that there is no local reality as such, irrespective of the works of Kuhn and Feyerabend. Copenhagen interpretation of Quantum Mechanics, independent of Postmodernism claims that the observations are observer dependant, even if one forgets the Vidyalankara interpretation published as a so called peer reviewed paper at the invitation of the editor of “Kalyani”.

What Feyarabend says is that there is no scientific method as such, and not only he and Kuhn, but even Popper was for “democratizing” western science whose so called colleges control their disciplines with an iron hand that the Catholic Church could not dream of. In that respect the Catholic Church was more democratic than the present western science establishment.

Western science begins with sensory perceptions (it considers only five senses) but does not have “faith” in the observations. Thus they go on to construct kathandara called scientific theories and test the so called theories with nothing but sensory perceptions , in which western science does not have “faith”! Could Prof. Amaratunga resolve this paradox before discussing further on the “pattapal boru” that are called theories. In the meantime I have four questions for Prof. Amaratunga.(i) What is meant by truth (ii) Is the theory of gravitation a pattapal boruva or not. If not justify the answer. (iii) I presume that Prof. Amaratunga is a Buddhist and would he please state which scheme of evolution he believes in: Big Bang, Darwinian evolution and the associated body of knowledge or evolution according to Agganna Sutta? (iv) How did the ancient people in this part of the world come to know that the earth goes round the sun long before Copernicus or any other European knew? Prof. Amaratunga can follow any method to answer the above questions.(13/04/12)

Nalin De Silva

Sunday, 18 November 2012

Culture, Knowledge, Relativism and Bududahama - I

It has become necessary to respond to Prof. N. A. de S. Amaratunga at some length. However, it should not be considered only as a reply to him as I would be describing some of my views on existence of objects in the process. I have to apologise to the readers and the editor that, as has been the experience, I may have to interrupt the series if there is a necessity to comment on current affairs. The learned Professor in his articles published on 13th, 17th, and 26th of September has concentrated on two aspects. Firstly he maintains that Relativism is a Postmodernist characteristic and that Kuhn was a Relativist and hence a Postmodernist, and that I too being a Relativist, is a Postmodernist. Prof. de S. Amaratunga states that Kuhn had said science is relative to culture and that there have been others who have held the same view on western science. According to him I am only echoing the ideas of some western scholars. Secondly the Professor maintains that according to Theravada Bududahama the existence of objects is not denied in an objective way. In fact what he claims is that according to Theravada Bududahama objects exist objectively. I emphasise the word objectively as when one states that objects exist without mentioning that the existence is relative to something it is implied that one is concerned with the objective existence of objects. If Prof. de S. Amaratunga has been of the view that the objects exist relative to others then there would not have been a great difference between the views expressed by him and me.


In this series of articles I will take up the second matter first. There are several reasons for doing so, one being that I owe the readers an explanation of “existence of objects” I promised in my exchange of ideas with Prof. Y. Karunadasa. Secondly the question of existence of objects within Theravada Bududahama has to be discussed as it is one of the most important problems in Bududahama various scholars having given different answers to the question as to whether the objects exist over the last two thousand five hundred years or so. Thirdly I who had been Marxist (Trotskyite) and a western Physicist became a Relativist not after reading Postmodernists or Relativists in the west but having found difficulties in interpreting Quantum Physics while teaching that subject at the University of Colombo more than twenty five years ago. It has to be mentioned that the book “Concept and Reality” by Ven. Katukurunde Nnanananda Thero was influential in this regard. Fourthly this year marks the twenty fifth anniversary of the publication of “Mage Lokaya” in which I formally expressed my relativism, which I named “Constructive Relativism” (Nirmanathmaka Sapekshathavadaya), a work that was based on Bududahama. Fifthly I consider Bududahama to be relative and in my interpretation western Relativists are half baked Relativists some of whom throughout the past two centuries have tried to absorb the views expressed in Bududahama into their cultures without much success.


Let me first explain what is meant by existence of objects relative to something. This something though expressed inanimately is nothing but an observer who does not need not be a human being. The Devas, Animals, Prethas and other bhavikas (those who are borne in different bahvas) are also observers, though they are not considered as observers in western science including Relativistic Physics. Any “sathva” with a mind is considered to be an observer and objects exist only relative to these observers. However, the question arises as to whether these observers exist or not. The answer to that question is that they also do not exist though they think that they exist due to ‘moha’. If one were to assume that the observers exist objectively, that is without being relative to the same observer or other observers then one has to assume that either the observers exist for ever (shasvathavadi) or are annihilated at some stage (uchchedavadi). This the question that came up in the discussion with Prof. Karunadasa as well regarding the post mortem condition of Arhant. If the Arhant had lived (existed) objectively then after parinibbana either the Arhant had to continue to exist in some form or other (shasvathavadi), or would have extinguished without leaving any trace (uchchedavadi).

When I said in my article that appeared on the 22nd of September that “If one assumes that things exist without being relative to something then one has to either assume that they last forever (shasvathavada) or are destroyed after some time (uchchhedavada)” and that “I am not only neither a shasvatavadin nor an uchchedavadin but I do not exist as such” all that Prof. de S. Amaratunga could say on the 26th of September was “The Dhamma theory of the Abhidhamma provides a profound explanation of the empirical existence of life and matter which leaves no doubts and ambiguity in the mind of the Theravada Buddhist about the nature of his/her own existence.” Now if Prof. de S. Amaratunga or Prof. Karunadasa whom has been quoted by the former has no ambiguity that either exists empirically (this cannot mean anything but objectively in the present context) it amounts to “athmavada” and either should be able to explain what happens to either of them after Parinibbana having first attained Nibbana. It is true that one could attain Nibbana in the present Bhava and continue to be with the body and the “mind” until parinibbana. I wanted an explanation from Prof. Karunadasa as to the difference between Sopadhisesa Nibbana and Nirupadisesa Nibbana but unfortunately his busy schedule prevented him from giving an answer to that query.


The observer (sathva) exists first relative to him (he/she/it are all included under he). I do not exist objectively as such but relative to me. It is “I” who construct “I” and recognize that a so called “I” exists. It is all due to Avidya that one constructs oneself and if not for “moha” there would not have been an “I”. Having constructed the “I”, the observer or “I” goes on to construct the so called world that includes the mother, father and the rest of inanimate and animate world relative to him. It is the recognition of an “I” in the absence of such “I” that keeps one doing the sansaric motion which is “dukkha” to the self assumed “I”. The mind had recognized that an “I” exist though “I” is nothing but an illusion of the so called mind. The most interesting thing is that there is no mind as well that exists objectively and I have attempted to explain in the article “Sinhala Bauddha Manasa” that the mind is constructed by the mind! I now find that the ideas expressed in this particular article are crude, and at present I am developing them further in my series of articles “Ape Pravada” written to “Vidusara”. Now what happens when “one” attains Nibbana is to “realize” that the assumption that “one” exists is wrong. “One” is on sansaric journey due to “moha” that “one” exists when there is no “one” as such. There is no “one” to continue eternally (shasvathavadi) or to destroy at some stage (uchchedavadi). It is the realization that no “one” exists. It is the realization that no “mind” exists. It is realized by a “Lokottara Citta” clearly indicating that it is not the “normal citta” that realizes that no “mind” exists. This obviously needs further elucidation, and “I” will come back to it later, though there is no “I” as such.

Before concluding this installment I would like to draw the attention of the reader to the following from the article by Prof. de S. Amaratunga on the 26th of September. “Therefore, this school was identified as eternalist (shasvathavada). The latter school, Sauthanthrica, on the other hand, rejected this view and propounded a philosophy that advocated a type of nihilism (uchchedavada). Prof.Silva’s ideas on existence are similar to those of Sauthanthrica. Prof. Silva seems to be of the opinion that according to ‘uchchedavada’ things "are destroyed after sometime". This is totally wrong, for according to uchchedavada (nihilism) nothing exists at all (my emphasis). Prof. Silva says he is not an uchchedavadin but yet he says there is no existence. Therefore he cannot say he is not an uchchedavadin”. If the learned Professor had contemplated on the word uchchedavda he would not have made this statement. Uchcheda is derived from the word cheda with which any student in GCE (O/L) classes is familiar. Cheda is to cut, intersect etc. and to cheda or to cut, destroy etc., something has to exist of course relative to something. As we have explained this something is an “observer” (sathva) which could also be the self. Uchchedavda is annihilationism, if we may coin a word as opposed to eternalism or shasvathavada. Uchchedavada is definitely not nihilism which could be translated as shunyathavada if one insists. Prof. de S. Amaratunga, I am afraid, is confused by the words he uses.


Copyright Prof. Nalin De Silva

Sunday, 30 September 2012

On Science and Culture

Prof. N. A. de S. Amaratunga in his letter to the opinion page on 17th September 2012 states: “Thomas Kuhn (and Michael Polyani) believed that scientists’ subjective experience made science a relativized discipline (see – "The Structure of Scientific Revolution", 1962). The subjective experience as we all know could be influenced by culture. Briefly speaking it is this idea that has made writers, both in the East and the West, say that science is based on culture.” Kuhn never said (western) science was a relativised discipline in “The Structure of Scientific Revolution”. Kuhn was neither a relativist nor Post modernist. He only opposed Popper’s Falsification Theory which said (western) science developed by the attempt of (western) scientists to falsify existing theories in western science. Kuhn challenged this theory and said western scientists almost all the time did some experiments to prove the existing theories and that only during what he called revolutionary times scientists came out with new paradigms. If Kuhn has said that (western) science is created relative to a culture or words to that effect Prof. de S. Amaratunga should quote the relevant passage(s) from “The Structure of Scientific Revolution” without quoting others without references on Kuhn and his so called relativism. After attributing to Kuhn a statement to the effect that science is a relativized discipline the Professor says subjective experience could be influenced by culture, as if it came from Kuhn. In any event western science is subjective like any other system of knowledge and even according to Prof. de S. Amaratunga subjective experience could be relative.

Some postmodernists may be realtivists but their main characteristics are deconstruction, claiming that there are no meta narratives, not mega narratives as one well known literary figure in Sri Lanka believed, but Kuhn does not subscribe to any of these. He was accepted as a conventional Philosopher of Science who taught at MIT though there may be a few around the world who think of Kuhn as a postmodernist and a relativist. If Prof. de S. Amaratunga refers to Feyerabend as a relativist I have no objection but I must say that Kuhn was never a relativist. His incommensurability simply said theories cannot be compared as they use different conceptual apparati and has not said that theories in western science are created relative to culture. As I have said I am not after recognition and I would be grateful to Prof. de S. Amaratunga to quote the relevant passage(s) of author(s) who have said that knowledge (not only western science) is created relative to the sense organs, mind and the culture based on a Chinthanya.

Prof.de S. Amartunga is interested in finding out how people have come to the conclusion that (western) science is relative to the culture. I do not know about the authours whom Prof. de S. Amaratunga mentions including Kuhn who in the view of the learned Professor has come to that conclusion but I have justified in my works why I claim that knowledge (I emphasize knowledge and not merely western science) is relative to sense organs mind and culture based on a Chinthanya. It is by reading books and articles on theory of knowledge and related subjects, and contemplating on what I have read and of course creating my own theories in a consistent way that I have come to the above conclusion, which is a method that has been used by ordinary people such as me long before Galileo, Newton and other great scientists who are supposed to have discovered a so called scientific method. Agganna Sutta and Darwin’s Theory with Big Bang are poles apart and they are relative to different cultures based on different Chinthanayas. Interestingly Prof. de S. Amaratunga has said: “according to both theories, life starts in water. Perhaps in the future Western scientists like Richard Dawkins, due to the influence of Buddhism, may give up their adherence to the linear process of evolution despite their culture. Such metamorphoses have occurred in the minds of Western philosophers and scientists in the past e.g. Arthur Schopenhauer, Niels Bohr.” In one of the theories life has come to earth from Abhassara Brahma Lokaya while in the other theory life as evolved from inorganic matter going through organic matter then through a single cell. However Prof. de S. Amaratunga says one day western scientists due to the influence of Buddhism, may give up their adherence to the linear process of evolution despite their culture. This is something that I have tried to explain in my “theory”. When western scientists give up their adherence to linear processes they are no more in their culture. It is not despite their culture this “metamorphism” takes place but coming out from their culture. Bohr’s Copenhagen interpretation is outside the western Chrtistian culture with its two valued Aristotelian Logic, and he was influenced by Ying Yang Philosophy of the Chinese, which has a three valued logic as I understand it. However he could not proceed much further and most of the western Physicists now have doubts about the Copenhagen Interpretation. This interpretation can be further developed in Sinhala Buddhist culture and already some work has been done in this regard.

In Theravada Buddhism there is no thithi and hence there is no existence. I as an entity does not exist and the ancient Buddhists had a tough time explaining to the Brahmins how karma effects a “person” who goes in to another Bhava. Thithi, Kshanavada were all created in order to explain some kind of existence. It is those who believe in some form of existence who have to explain how Nibbana is attained without annihilating (uchchedavada) an existing athma (soul). In Kacchayana Sutta Sammasambuddha says if A then B, and if not A then not B, and nothing else. I am definitely not a Sauthrathinka as I do not believe in thithi. If one assumes that things exist without being relative to something then one has to either assume that they last forever (shasvathavada) or are destroyed after some time (uchchhedavada). I am not only neither a shasvatavadin nor an uchchedavadin but I do not exist as such.

Copyright Prof. Nalin De Silva